Wednesday, March 30, 2011
Friday, March 11, 2011
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Vacuum.
Something I find irritating is the use by some charlatans, new age tomfoolery and other intellectual impostors, the word "empty." Let me give an example of what I mean, recently I heard "within a supposedly erudite following:
Nothing is further from the truth: this claim is by the charlatanism a conscious effort to deceive or a more likely level of total ignorance of the subject, a vision so distorted the history of thought that requires exotic appeal and eastern philosophies, always so helpful for this sort of fool the naive and uninformed .
Vacuum is no idealist materialist concept. Comes from the atomistic philosophy represented by philosophers such as Democritus , for that matter was made up of atoms, indivisible particles were moved and interacted to form the basic elements like water or fire, and all complex bodies. Atoms therefore had no need of vacuum, a space that made possible their movements, an idea that Democritus expressed in a rather blunt: "The principles of all things are atoms and the void, everything else is questionable and debatable ". Atomistic Another illustrious philosopher of antiquity, Epicurus , said so in his Letter to Herodotus: "If there were what we call empty space and evanescent nature, the bodies would no where to be or where they move, when shown in motion."
Science, heir natural philosophy has little to fear the emptiness and mysticism, heir to the scholastic and idealism of Plato and Aristotle little can take credit for this idea, since these philosophers advocated precisely the opposite, that nature could not have discontinuities. The contemporary physics through quantum mechanics and other disciplines has confirmed the existence of a vacuum and atoms, of course yes, it does not converge with the mystical, but to continue with the naturalist tradition that has always been part.
philosopher Gustavo Bueno speaks of in the next video in the confusion between "materialism" and "body", and how the material is not necessarily "corporeal"
The full video can be seen here: http://www.nodulo.org/ec/2008/n074p01.htm
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Something I find irritating is the use by some charlatans, new age tomfoolery and other intellectual impostors, the word "empty." Let me give an example of what I mean, recently I heard "within a supposedly erudite following:
The solid material is gone, it differs little from the vacuum, any solid body is empty space by 99%. Our world, our body is made of vacuum, everything is empty, modern science converge and enter deep correlation with the central idea governing the teaching of the mystics.This type of discourse has become quite popular and we have seen in movies with some grace as Men Who Stare at Goats or alleged documentaries like the infamous What the Bleep Do We Know!? . We present the "vacuum" as something opposed to the "material" as a triumph of "spirituality" on the science that is bound to falter, now complete! Mystics already knew!.
Nothing is further from the truth: this claim is by the charlatanism a conscious effort to deceive or a more likely level of total ignorance of the subject, a vision so distorted the history of thought that requires exotic appeal and eastern philosophies, always so helpful for this sort of fool the naive and uninformed .
Vacuum is no idealist materialist concept. Comes from the atomistic philosophy represented by philosophers such as Democritus , for that matter was made up of atoms, indivisible particles were moved and interacted to form the basic elements like water or fire, and all complex bodies. Atoms therefore had no need of vacuum, a space that made possible their movements, an idea that Democritus expressed in a rather blunt: "The principles of all things are atoms and the void, everything else is questionable and debatable ". Atomistic Another illustrious philosopher of antiquity, Epicurus , said so in his Letter to Herodotus: "If there were what we call empty space and evanescent nature, the bodies would no where to be or where they move, when shown in motion."
Science, heir natural philosophy has little to fear the emptiness and mysticism, heir to the scholastic and idealism of Plato and Aristotle little can take credit for this idea, since these philosophers advocated precisely the opposite, that nature could not have discontinuities. The contemporary physics through quantum mechanics and other disciplines has confirmed the existence of a vacuum and atoms, of course yes, it does not converge with the mystical, but to continue with the naturalist tradition that has always been part.
philosopher Gustavo Bueno speaks of in the next video in the confusion between "materialism" and "body", and how the material is not necessarily "corporeal"
The full video can be seen here: http://www.nodulo.org/ec/2008/n074p01.htm
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Wednesday, March 2, 2011
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Nothingness. The impossible materialism
If you are atheist you believe that the universe was created out of nothing?. Is a question that often occur with some frequency in debates between atheists and believers, true that the topic lends itself to this, but is surprising because the question almost always comes from fans religions of Christian tradition.
The origin of the universe remains an unsolved riddle, and an atheist can believe the universe came from nothing or has always existed. Are those who believe in gods "creators" who must explain how the traffic can be thought of "non-being" to "be." The creation out of nothing or "creatio ex nihilo" is also a Christian dogma, as you can see going to any catechism, which it seems, Christians themselves do not usually do.
The failure to create out of nothing is an argument for atheism, for example, is one of the main arguments of Sébastien Faure in "Twelve evidence of the absence of God " :
mentioned here the principle "nothing comes from nothing" that is typical of the materialist philosophy since antiquity, and not in vain Faure Lucretius mentioned in this passage, philosopher, follower of Epicurus atomistic tradition , one of the most paradigmatic representatives of this current and perhaps the first to formulate this aphorism as valid then as now. ---
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If you are atheist you believe that the universe was created out of nothing?. Is a question that often occur with some frequency in debates between atheists and believers, true that the topic lends itself to this, but is surprising because the question almost always comes from fans religions of Christian tradition.
The origin of the universe remains an unsolved riddle, and an atheist can believe the universe came from nothing or has always existed. Are those who believe in gods "creators" who must explain how the traffic can be thought of "non-being" to "be." The creation out of nothing or "creatio ex nihilo" is also a Christian dogma, as you can see going to any catechism, which it seems, Christians themselves do not usually do.
The failure to create out of nothing is an argument for atheism, for example, is one of the main arguments of Sébastien Faure in "Twelve evidence of the absence of God " :
With nothing, nothing can be done and nothing, nothing can not be obtained and Lucretius's famous aphorism "ex nihilo nihil" is a certainty and obvious evidence. The creative gesture is a gesture impossible to admit, is absurd. Creating is thus a mystical-religious expression that may be of some value in the eyes of people who believe what place do not understand and whom faith is more necessary at the very least understand it. It is, however, a contradiction to every individual cultured and wise, for whom words have no more value than they have gained touch with reality or a possibility.
Consequently, the hypothesis of a Being truly creative is a hypothesis which rejects reason. Being creative does not exist, can not exist. Sébastien Faure
mentioned here the principle "nothing comes from nothing" that is typical of the materialist philosophy since antiquity, and not in vain Faure Lucretius mentioned in this passage, philosopher, follower of Epicurus atomistic tradition , one of the most paradigmatic representatives of this current and perhaps the first to formulate this aphorism as valid then as now. ---
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Wednesday, February 23, 2011
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unorthodox.
is common between impostors and tomfoolery talk about his position as a heterodoxy, presenting it as an "alternative science" that is revealed to the realistic dogmatism "official" science "never understood what they mean with that" official "- defender of materialism, rationalism, scientism, corseted, inquisitorial, guilty of all evils in the world.
The story rather the opposite: it was the naturalist and materialist vision of the world's heterodox, which he has always been possible, has rebelled against the prevailing idealism advocated by religion and other branches of government, always paying consequences. This is the case of Nicholas of Autrecourt a theologian and philosopher born in medieval France.
copied below some interesting excerpts from the "History of materialist philosophies" of Charbonnat:
"After studying theology, Nicholas Autrecourt (1295/1298-1369) became professor of the Faculty of Arts Paris. At the initiative of Benedict XII, papal justice so importunate in 1340, calling him to Avignon immediately after the publication of his treatise exigent Ordo. must respond to the positions taken before a commission that examines each of their texts. Examination hard inquisitorial six years, during which Nicholas is imprisoned. Finally retracts and agree to condemn some of the propositions extracted from his works and their courses. On November 20, 1347, sentencing is: you are forbidden to reside and teach in Paris, is sentenced to burn his work and loses his title of professor of theology. Ends its life in Metz, held, as dean of the cathedral chapter. Catholic censorship has left us only a few of his texts: the philosophical treatise exigent Ordo (begun around 1330), a dispute over the beatific vision, and three letters of correspondence. The exigent Ordo
explicitly challenge, through the arguments of materialism old creationist dogma. Not content with putting in doubt a sly form a creation ex nihilo evoking the eternity of the world, to demonstrate the impossibility, both logical and ontological, that produces non-self being. "
" The truth is In any case, this maverick defends a material almost identical to that of antiquity. Ultimately depends on two assumptions, one ontological and other software, which together tend to show that "nothing, nothing comes up." Unfortunately, the attempt remains isolated and easily aborted because of the expeditious enforcement of the church. The philosopher seems to produce an overflow materialist quickly frustrated and have no future. Its suppression shows, a contrario, that the emergence of a current follower of the old materialism is impossible in the ideological context of this time (and a fortiori a current innovative materials). Heterodox materialism, durable and practical, it is therefore impossible for the clergy suppresses any tendency of independence. "
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is common between impostors and tomfoolery talk about his position as a heterodoxy, presenting it as an "alternative science" that is revealed to the realistic dogmatism "official" science "never understood what they mean with that" official "- defender of materialism, rationalism, scientism, corseted, inquisitorial, guilty of all evils in the world.
The story rather the opposite: it was the naturalist and materialist vision of the world's heterodox, which he has always been possible, has rebelled against the prevailing idealism advocated by religion and other branches of government, always paying consequences. This is the case of Nicholas of Autrecourt a theologian and philosopher born in medieval France.
copied below some interesting excerpts from the "History of materialist philosophies" of Charbonnat:
"After studying theology, Nicholas Autrecourt (1295/1298-1369) became professor of the Faculty of Arts Paris. At the initiative of Benedict XII, papal justice so importunate in 1340, calling him to Avignon immediately after the publication of his treatise exigent Ordo. must respond to the positions taken before a commission that examines each of their texts. Examination hard inquisitorial six years, during which Nicholas is imprisoned. Finally retracts and agree to condemn some of the propositions extracted from his works and their courses. On November 20, 1347, sentencing is: you are forbidden to reside and teach in Paris, is sentenced to burn his work and loses his title of professor of theology. Ends its life in Metz, held, as dean of the cathedral chapter. Catholic censorship has left us only a few of his texts: the philosophical treatise exigent Ordo (begun around 1330), a dispute over the beatific vision, and three letters of correspondence. The exigent Ordo
explicitly challenge, through the arguments of materialism old creationist dogma. Not content with putting in doubt a sly form a creation ex nihilo evoking the eternity of the world, to demonstrate the impossibility, both logical and ontological, that produces non-self being. "
" The truth is In any case, this maverick defends a material almost identical to that of antiquity. Ultimately depends on two assumptions, one ontological and other software, which together tend to show that "nothing, nothing comes up." Unfortunately, the attempt remains isolated and easily aborted because of the expeditious enforcement of the church. The philosopher seems to produce an overflow materialist quickly frustrated and have no future. Its suppression shows, a contrario, that the emergence of a current follower of the old materialism is impossible in the ideological context of this time (and a fortiori a current innovative materials). Heterodox materialism, durable and practical, it is therefore impossible for the clergy suppresses any tendency of independence. "
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Monday, February 14, 2011
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Tetrapharmakos.
In order to synthesize their provisions on these issues and forward them to his disciples in a simple, Epicurus summed up his philosophy in four formulas known as "quadruple tetrapharmakos priest set by Philodemus as follows:
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In order to synthesize their provisions on these issues and forward them to his disciples in a simple, Epicurus summed up his philosophy in four formulas known as "quadruple tetrapharmakos priest set by Philodemus as follows:
"We should not fear God, death should not worry; and while it is easy to obtain, evil is easier to bear. "Nothing should, therefore, bind and chain humanity, this can tame everything, including their own fears.
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Sunday, February 13, 2011
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Evolution and Intelligent Design.
our Ivoox channel, primarily for their own use because I love having the full mp3 device of this type of content, but also with the intention of sharing and dissemination, without further encouragement to recognize the informative work that is being carried out. And as we pass the Darwin Day that better than a couple of lectures on the evolution of species, given by Dr. Carolina Martinez Pulido, Professor in the Department of Plant Biology ULL.
Description: The theory of evolution described by Darwin was a real revolution in biology, removing it permanently from the bottomless pit of the pseudo-theological philosophy and turning it into a science with a capital. Noting the phylogenetic relationship between all living beings and deny the separation between humans and other animals, the final break with religious mythological explanation: creation and fixity separate ... thing that has not been forgiven in some sectors religious fundamentalist creationist pseudoscience advocates.
Description: Complete the previous lecture Professor Martínez Pulido focuses this time on creationist pseudo-scientific doctrine, which attempts to disguise in recent times under the banner of intelligent design.
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our Ivoox channel, primarily for their own use because I love having the full mp3 device of this type of content, but also with the intention of sharing and dissemination, without further encouragement to recognize the informative work that is being carried out. And as we pass the Darwin Day that better than a couple of lectures on the evolution of species, given by Dr. Carolina Martinez Pulido, Professor in the Department of Plant Biology ULL.
Description: The theory of evolution described by Darwin was a real revolution in biology, removing it permanently from the bottomless pit of the pseudo-theological philosophy and turning it into a science with a capital. Noting the phylogenetic relationship between all living beings and deny the separation between humans and other animals, the final break with religious mythological explanation: creation and fixity separate ... thing that has not been forgiven in some sectors religious fundamentalist creationist pseudoscience advocates.
Description: Complete the previous lecture Professor Martínez Pulido focuses this time on creationist pseudo-scientific doctrine, which attempts to disguise in recent times under the banner of intelligent design.
These conferences are part of the cycle science and pseudoscience, a course of scientific and critical analysis of the pseudo-sciences, offered by the University of La Laguna since 2001. Can see a video here: http://www.divulgacioncientifica.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=29 ---
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Saturday, February 12, 2011
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"Does God exist?" Do you sense today to ask that question?
"No. The word" God "is like" chuchuchu "does not mean anything.
This is Jesus says Mosterín a questionnaire published in the journal Philosophy Today , which aims to popularize philosophical thought and in its first issue shows a striking cover in which envisages: , Does God Exist?. Interesting initiative, we wish the best of luck and hope that the desire informative not make them lose rigor.
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"No. The word" God "is like" chuchuchu "does not mean anything.
This is Jesus says Mosterín a questionnaire published in the journal Philosophy Today , which aims to popularize philosophical thought and in its first issue shows a striking cover in which envisages: , Does God Exist?. Interesting initiative, we wish the best of luck and hope that the desire informative not make them lose rigor.
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Sunday, February 6, 2011
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Saturday, February 5, 2011
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Friday, February 4, 2011
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Ambam: The gorilla that walks like humans.
Things to think ....
Ambam is a silverback gorilla, 21, who lives in a zoo in Kent (southern England) which has become an internet sensation thanks to a 18-second video in which he is seen walking like a human. The film has already had over 300,000 YouTube page visits since it was posted last week by the heads of the Aspinall Foundation, www.aspinallfoundation.org-the organization that runs the Port Lympne Wild Animal Park, the zoo where she resides Ambam for some 14. ----
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Ambam is a silverback gorilla, 21, who lives in a zoo in Kent (southern England) which has become an internet sensation thanks to a 18-second video in which he is seen walking like a human. The film has already had over 300,000 YouTube page visits since it was posted last week by the heads of the Aspinall Foundation, www.aspinallfoundation.org-the organization that runs the Port Lympne Wild Animal Park, the zoo where she resides Ambam for some 14. ----
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Tuesday, February 1, 2011
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Ten Discoveries That Changed the World. FAQ
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Professor Atomic and Nuclear Physics at the University of Sevilla, Manuel Lozano Leyva, star in the series "scientific presence at the University Cadiz. In his presentation, "D. .. iez scientific discoveries that changed the world view," A review of the 10 findings, which in his view, have marked the development of scientific development. The findings presented:
1. Galaxies: from Ptolemy to Hubble.
2. Plate tectonics: Alfred Wegener.
3. The Origin of Species: Darwin and Wallace.
4. The blood flow: from Aristotle to William Harvey.
5. Rosetta Stone: Jean-François Champollion.
6. Microorganisms: Anton van Leeuwenhoek.
7. Genes: From Aristotle to Mendel.
8. Atoms: from Democritus to Lavoisier and Dalton.
9. The centromeres.
10. El cero
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A conference enjoyable and Manuel Lozano Leyva, uploaded to our Ivoox channel, which we are collecting audio that seems interesting to share for themselves and overall enjoyment.
Description:
Professor Atomic and Nuclear Physics at the University of Sevilla, Manuel Lozano Leyva, star in the series "scientific presence at the University Cadiz. In his presentation, "D. .. iez scientific discoveries that changed the world view," A review of the 10 findings, which in his view, have marked the development of scientific development. The findings presented:
1. Galaxies: from Ptolemy to Hubble.
2. Plate tectonics: Alfred Wegener.
3. The Origin of Species: Darwin and Wallace.
4. The blood flow: from Aristotle to William Harvey.
5. Rosetta Stone: Jean-François Champollion.
6. Microorganisms: Anton van Leeuwenhoek.
7. Genes: From Aristotle to Mendel.
8. Atoms: from Democritus to Lavoisier and Dalton.
9. The centromeres.
10. El cero
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Friday, January 28, 2011
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Tuesday, January 25, 2011
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Can science prove that God does not exist? The question of a misunderstanding, either through ignorance or intent to divert the debate, the role and nature of science, and a fallacy-transfer burden of proof. Science is not intended to show-and if they intended or could do, nor is its function, there are no elves, the Tooth Fairy, the Olympian gods or the God of monotheistic religions. Therefore the answer to that question is: no, of course not. But the burden of proof lies with those who said that God exists and are those who believe in gods who must prove their existence and not ask those who do not believe demonstrate their absence ..
While it is true that, as a side effect and side-but unavoidable-scientific activity throughout its history has been slowly, or expelling supernatural entities like gods their place in our worldview or making them unnecessary, transforming the magical-religious vision of the world somewhat obsolete to be replaced by a naturalistic description. Newton's mechanics to describe the laws that govern the motion of bodies unwittingly ended with the need to "prime movers." Evolutionary theory of Darwrin Noting the phylogenetic between all living things broke apart in theology established between human beings and other living things, breaking down the position of men and women as product of a "creation" special, independent, separate and perfect image and likeness of the creator. "biology and neuroscience has collapsed dualistic conception of the soul and vital principle understood as supernatural carrier will, and replaced by an emerging phenomenon of the central nervous system itself: the mind. Currently, cosmology and astrophysics with models like the Big Bang describes the beginning of the universe without leaving much room for creative gods or governors. And these are just some examples.
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Wednesday, January 19, 2011
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Tuesday, January 18, 2011
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start protests and demonstrations against the pope's upcoming visit to Madrid in August. The Madrid Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (Amal) has launched this campaign under the slogan 'Go home, Benedict' to denounce the waste that will the visit of the leader and Catholic leader and to demand a secular state.
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start protests and demonstrations against the pope's upcoming visit to Madrid in August. The Madrid Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (Amal) has launched this campaign under the slogan 'Go home, Benedict' to denounce the waste that will the visit of the leader and Catholic leader and to demand a secular state.
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Monday, January 17, 2011
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stolen children of Franco.
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Several English institutions begin, tentatively, the investigation of theft of babies and children during the dictatorship of Francisco Franco. What began as part of a political extermination operation in post-war women's prisons, eventually becoming a mafia network that would extend until the first years of democracy. It is estimated that the toll could reach up to 300 000 children.
"I know I gave birth. They took him to baptize him, but he never returned. I saw him no more. I suppose a married couple had no children it was, but I did not ask permission. " This is the shocking story that the deceased Emily Girón, imprisoned and tortured for being the sister of guerrilla Manuel Girón, "El Leon del Bierzo", he for the documentary "The Lost Children of Franco."
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Sunday, January 16, 2011
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A Blue Point - Program # 16 - Kleopatra. Reforms
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In the first program of 2011, talking about various topics: the science forum www.misterioyciencia.tk Work on double star Juan Luis Gonzalez in his blog http:/ ... / ladecimaesfera.blogspot.com Partial Eclipse of the Sun seen from Spain on 4 January. The sounds of space, Edgar Gomez, from Mexico, on U.S. astronauts. Asteroid Kleopatra. The atmosphere of exoplanets. That and much more in your program in astronomy: A Blue Point, made by the Astronomical Association Jerezana Magallanes (Spain)
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The Pope concluded the reform of eternity. Original Source
Benedict proclaims that purgatory is not a physical place, but "inner fire" of the sinner - Juan Pablo II amended in 1999 the concept of heaven and hell and die before questioned the limbo
JOHN G. 16/01/2011 BEDOYA
Everything is metaphor. Where the Creed teaches that good will be rewarded with eternal heaven and the sinners punished with a terrible hell, actually does not refer to physical places in the clouds or below ground, but moods. The same applies to the purgatory that Pope Benedict XVI also recently reduced to a simple "inner fire." "Purgatory is not an element of the bowels of the Earth, there is a fire outside, but internally," the Pope said in last Wednesday's catechesis.
John Paul II said something similar in August 1999 about heaven and hell, also mere moods. He had proclaimed long before the French existentialist philosopher Jean Paul Sartre, with this sentence was time: "Hell is other people."
said in 1999 the famous Polish pope, "Hell, more than a place, is a situation of who is away in a free and definitive of God." And also that "the sky is not a physical place in the clouds, but a living relationship with God."
far justified write heaven, hell, purgatory or limbo because they were considered capitalize place names, "albeit mythical or imaginary." It thus establishes the Royal English Academy in the recent Spelling of English. His argument is that these substantive "established specifically designated places by the various religions as a destination of souls after death ".
Settled as mythical place names, lose the right to the capital. It remains to get an apology for the misery and fear caused to these scarecrows. After Galileo was impossible believe in heaven as the church had. But to say has been dangerous for centuries. In 1600 Giordano Bruno was burned alive, in 1616 condemned Copernicus, and in 1663, Galileo. The moral price paid by those Vatican atrocities is high, but the greater the grief of millions of faithful who have lived, many are still alive, terrified by the idea of \u200b\u200beternal fire in hell now discarded.
Popes fought
now the faithful Catholics of that apocalyptic eschatology, dark and vengeful. Theologians as important as or Hans Küng Hans Urs von Balthasar, are forward 40 years, first at the risk of anatematización. It was the Second Vatican Council expert on the decision of John XXIII and professor of theology at the Catholic University of Tübingen when he was removed from office by his writings.
In 1975 Küng wrote about heaven: "You can not today as in biblical times, understanding the sky blue as the outside of the throne room of God, but the image of the invisible realm of God. The sky of faith sky is not the astronauts. There is a place, but a way of being. "He said about hell:" Do not be understood as a place or infraterrestre supraterrestrial world, but as exclusion from communion with the living God. "
If everything was so clear, why Popes later reviewed as the doctrine of the afterlife? There are three answers. The first has to do with the so-called harassment of science. Rome did not want to repeat the bitter story of Galileo or Giordano Bruno. The second reason is the result of statistics : 60% of Catholics believe in Christ, but not in hell or in paradise. And, finally, to fulfill an obligation to reconcile that have delayed more than prudent. The Church must live in their time, and the interpretation has to be updated in the past became sacred texts. This is the aggiornamento, favorite word of John XXIII and Vatican II.
The last myth to fall into disuse has been purgatory. It was somewhere between heaven and hell, a sort of waiting room. Never officially said where it was located and its arrival on the scene, around 1170, justified the celebration of All Saints and a nasty habit of buying bulls that heaven for the souls of friends and relatives.
Another stud in eschatological geography affected limb. Classic catechisms said limbo was where they were who died without the use of reason and not baptized. A place without torment or glory, something like being in the clouds forever.
The punishment was to live in a third class of cavity than the heaven and hell, in which innocent souls, besides being deprived of glory, would suffer the absence of those who had the good fortune to escape: parents, siblings. .. Tridentine doctrine incentivized with such terrible arguments quickly baptism of infants.
John Paul II who was ordained in 2004, shortly before his death, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) the address of a theological commission why the suppression the limbus. It was not an isolated theological problem. The papacy was forced to change views that have been filled with anguish the faithful. Thus, the view from St. Augustine, has the Church of Rome on the man as a hopelessly empecatado since Eve and the serpent bundled Adam. The Pope sought a synthesis that would help "to practice more coherent and enlightened pastoral." The doctrine that puts in limbo the dead children with the "original sin" is not washed away by baptism, is of medieval origin and some relevant among modern theologians unless it is twinned with the idea, also secured by suitable Vatican II, that outside the Roman Church had not salvation.
"In the beginning God created heaven and earth," reads the first sentence of the Bible. For those who take the holy book as a doctrine, such a start occurred in just one week and 6,000 years ago. They also claim that there was a Paradise (sometimes a garden called Eden, the Earth's delight), where Adam and Eve called an appendix ribs had two sons, Cain and Abel, which in turn ... The happy story of the apple cost them being thrown into outer darkness and some have to work, they and their descendants, to earn bread by the sweat of their brow. " The biblical writer did not see unemployment at that time.
It is a curious history, including snake and unhappy ending. In fact, all unreal. But its consequences have been terrible. As for centuries the subject of earthly paradise has been interpreted as it was written at the time of King Solomon, Christian preachers have taught that Eve came evil and death in the world and that women deserve everlasting contempt for it. "Do not be never or Judas and Eve", urged Pius XII, in the fifties of last century, every time there was ordination of priests in Rome and received in audience the misacantanos.
There is a long list of Christian thinkers who proclaimed in the sixties, after the Vatican II, which now preach the pontiffs. But for a layman eyes, the new papal eschatology turned upside down the classical interpretation of sacred texts and what has been taught as doctrine to English children in catechism as famous as those of Astete and Ripalda. Also fell precipitously the idea of \u200b\u200bThomas Aquinas on some of the essential pleasures of going to heaven: in addition to the vision of God, the wise Aquinas stresses the un-Christian from the contemplation of the sufferings of the cast into hell.
In the same vein, the gigantic Dante preaches that vengeful delight when The Divine Comedy, in addition to gloat in the "region of the Damned" with the appointment of thieves, loan sharks, pimps, betrayers, negligent princes, popes and genius greedy cheaters like Ulysses (at the Trojan horse), adjusts his countrymen accounts of Florence, of which was prior before being exiled. On his journey to the beyond the appointment of 32 Florentine poet rotting in hell. Gloating is human, but may be exaggerations such alternative eschatology excremental a word, a derivative of eschatos (last) and logos (study): a study of recent days.
The morbid gossip Dante to the condemned into everlasting fire, terrified, however, Unamuno, calling them "moral absurdity" the very idea of \u200b\u200bhell. "For the hell I started to rebel against the faith. My fear is annihilation, annulment, nothing beyond the grave. What more hell?" He wrote.
For the hell and the rest of Christian eschatology, the Vatican, with its enormous power, filled with shadows, sorrows and fears for centuries the vision of humanity, with limits taken today by irreverent. An example is the Capuchin preacher Martin von Cochem, who came to set the height of the flames of hell, calling attention to the fact that his fire is hottest the earth: it happens "Rather close", "feeds on fish and brimstone" and it is God who breathes.
"You know," is displayed Cochem, "that when you blow on the fire, it turns with a vengeance. If the fire is stoked with great bellows, as in the forges of the blacksmiths, the flames become furious. When Almighty God is blowing the fire of hell with his breath, how horrible is not his rage and fury. "
That a so gross and absurd eschatology has survived for centuries can be explained by the desire for immortality of the human race and the hope of a "beyond" after death. He holds Manuel Fraija theologian, a student in Germany by Karl Rahner, Hans Küng and Walter Kasper (director of doctoral thesis). "I told Feuerbach that if there were no death, there would be no religion. And Nietzsche attributed the victory of Christianity in this deplorable flattery of personal vanity achieved by dint of promises of immortality," he adds.
Hell is also a destructive dystopia. By threatening to eternal punishment, was intended to cause terror and the flight of the world. The look of the past acted as a distraction to divert believers from their responsibilities in building the earthly city.
the background is the doctrine of the resurrection, which was also born as a response to injustice. Fraija theologian says: "There are those unjustly treated, humiliated and offended, victims of selfishness and barbarism. The resurrection is to satisfy one of the fundamental desires of human beings, marked by a melancholy of fulfillment that only the full resurrection . There is an anthropology of unsatisfied call it, that fits well with the announcement of the resurrection. For her, the resurrection is a requirement. " -----
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The Pope concluded the reform of eternity. Original Source
Benedict proclaims that purgatory is not a physical place, but "inner fire" of the sinner - Juan Pablo II amended in 1999 the concept of heaven and hell and die before questioned the limbo
JOHN G. 16/01/2011 BEDOYA
Everything is metaphor. Where the Creed teaches that good will be rewarded with eternal heaven and the sinners punished with a terrible hell, actually does not refer to physical places in the clouds or below ground, but moods. The same applies to the purgatory that Pope Benedict XVI also recently reduced to a simple "inner fire." "Purgatory is not an element of the bowels of the Earth, there is a fire outside, but internally," the Pope said in last Wednesday's catechesis.
John Paul II said something similar in August 1999 about heaven and hell, also mere moods. He had proclaimed long before the French existentialist philosopher Jean Paul Sartre, with this sentence was time: "Hell is other people."
said in 1999 the famous Polish pope, "Hell, more than a place, is a situation of who is away in a free and definitive of God." And also that "the sky is not a physical place in the clouds, but a living relationship with God."
far justified write heaven, hell, purgatory or limbo because they were considered capitalize place names, "albeit mythical or imaginary." It thus establishes the Royal English Academy in the recent Spelling of English. His argument is that these substantive "established specifically designated places by the various religions as a destination of souls after death ".
Settled as mythical place names, lose the right to the capital. It remains to get an apology for the misery and fear caused to these scarecrows. After Galileo was impossible believe in heaven as the church had. But to say has been dangerous for centuries. In 1600 Giordano Bruno was burned alive, in 1616 condemned Copernicus, and in 1663, Galileo. The moral price paid by those Vatican atrocities is high, but the greater the grief of millions of faithful who have lived, many are still alive, terrified by the idea of \u200b\u200beternal fire in hell now discarded.
Popes fought
now the faithful Catholics of that apocalyptic eschatology, dark and vengeful. Theologians as important as or Hans Küng Hans Urs von Balthasar, are forward 40 years, first at the risk of anatematización. It was the Second Vatican Council expert on the decision of John XXIII and professor of theology at the Catholic University of Tübingen when he was removed from office by his writings.
In 1975 Küng wrote about heaven: "You can not today as in biblical times, understanding the sky blue as the outside of the throne room of God, but the image of the invisible realm of God. The sky of faith sky is not the astronauts. There is a place, but a way of being. "He said about hell:" Do not be understood as a place or infraterrestre supraterrestrial world, but as exclusion from communion with the living God. "
If everything was so clear, why Popes later reviewed as the doctrine of the afterlife? There are three answers. The first has to do with the so-called harassment of science. Rome did not want to repeat the bitter story of Galileo or Giordano Bruno. The second reason is the result of statistics : 60% of Catholics believe in Christ, but not in hell or in paradise. And, finally, to fulfill an obligation to reconcile that have delayed more than prudent. The Church must live in their time, and the interpretation has to be updated in the past became sacred texts. This is the aggiornamento, favorite word of John XXIII and Vatican II.
The last myth to fall into disuse has been purgatory. It was somewhere between heaven and hell, a sort of waiting room. Never officially said where it was located and its arrival on the scene, around 1170, justified the celebration of All Saints and a nasty habit of buying bulls that heaven for the souls of friends and relatives.
Another stud in eschatological geography affected limb. Classic catechisms said limbo was where they were who died without the use of reason and not baptized. A place without torment or glory, something like being in the clouds forever.
The punishment was to live in a third class of cavity than the heaven and hell, in which innocent souls, besides being deprived of glory, would suffer the absence of those who had the good fortune to escape: parents, siblings. .. Tridentine doctrine incentivized with such terrible arguments quickly baptism of infants.
John Paul II who was ordained in 2004, shortly before his death, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now Benedict XVI) the address of a theological commission why the suppression the limbus. It was not an isolated theological problem. The papacy was forced to change views that have been filled with anguish the faithful. Thus, the view from St. Augustine, has the Church of Rome on the man as a hopelessly empecatado since Eve and the serpent bundled Adam. The Pope sought a synthesis that would help "to practice more coherent and enlightened pastoral." The doctrine that puts in limbo the dead children with the "original sin" is not washed away by baptism, is of medieval origin and some relevant among modern theologians unless it is twinned with the idea, also secured by suitable Vatican II, that outside the Roman Church had not salvation.
"In the beginning God created heaven and earth," reads the first sentence of the Bible. For those who take the holy book as a doctrine, such a start occurred in just one week and 6,000 years ago. They also claim that there was a Paradise (sometimes a garden called Eden, the Earth's delight), where Adam and Eve called an appendix ribs had two sons, Cain and Abel, which in turn ... The happy story of the apple cost them being thrown into outer darkness and some have to work, they and their descendants, to earn bread by the sweat of their brow. " The biblical writer did not see unemployment at that time.
It is a curious history, including snake and unhappy ending. In fact, all unreal. But its consequences have been terrible. As for centuries the subject of earthly paradise has been interpreted as it was written at the time of King Solomon, Christian preachers have taught that Eve came evil and death in the world and that women deserve everlasting contempt for it. "Do not be never or Judas and Eve", urged Pius XII, in the fifties of last century, every time there was ordination of priests in Rome and received in audience the misacantanos.
There is a long list of Christian thinkers who proclaimed in the sixties, after the Vatican II, which now preach the pontiffs. But for a layman eyes, the new papal eschatology turned upside down the classical interpretation of sacred texts and what has been taught as doctrine to English children in catechism as famous as those of Astete and Ripalda. Also fell precipitously the idea of \u200b\u200bThomas Aquinas on some of the essential pleasures of going to heaven: in addition to the vision of God, the wise Aquinas stresses the un-Christian from the contemplation of the sufferings of the cast into hell.
In the same vein, the gigantic Dante preaches that vengeful delight when The Divine Comedy, in addition to gloat in the "region of the Damned" with the appointment of thieves, loan sharks, pimps, betrayers, negligent princes, popes and genius greedy cheaters like Ulysses (at the Trojan horse), adjusts his countrymen accounts of Florence, of which was prior before being exiled. On his journey to the beyond the appointment of 32 Florentine poet rotting in hell. Gloating is human, but may be exaggerations such alternative eschatology excremental a word, a derivative of eschatos (last) and logos (study): a study of recent days.
The morbid gossip Dante to the condemned into everlasting fire, terrified, however, Unamuno, calling them "moral absurdity" the very idea of \u200b\u200bhell. "For the hell I started to rebel against the faith. My fear is annihilation, annulment, nothing beyond the grave. What more hell?" He wrote.
For the hell and the rest of Christian eschatology, the Vatican, with its enormous power, filled with shadows, sorrows and fears for centuries the vision of humanity, with limits taken today by irreverent. An example is the Capuchin preacher Martin von Cochem, who came to set the height of the flames of hell, calling attention to the fact that his fire is hottest the earth: it happens "Rather close", "feeds on fish and brimstone" and it is God who breathes.
"You know," is displayed Cochem, "that when you blow on the fire, it turns with a vengeance. If the fire is stoked with great bellows, as in the forges of the blacksmiths, the flames become furious. When Almighty God is blowing the fire of hell with his breath, how horrible is not his rage and fury. "
That a so gross and absurd eschatology has survived for centuries can be explained by the desire for immortality of the human race and the hope of a "beyond" after death. He holds Manuel Fraija theologian, a student in Germany by Karl Rahner, Hans Küng and Walter Kasper (director of doctoral thesis). "I told Feuerbach that if there were no death, there would be no religion. And Nietzsche attributed the victory of Christianity in this deplorable flattery of personal vanity achieved by dint of promises of immortality," he adds.
Hell is also a destructive dystopia. By threatening to eternal punishment, was intended to cause terror and the flight of the world. The look of the past acted as a distraction to divert believers from their responsibilities in building the earthly city.
the background is the doctrine of the resurrection, which was also born as a response to injustice. Fraija theologian says: "There are those unjustly treated, humiliated and offended, victims of selfishness and barbarism. The resurrection is to satisfy one of the fundamental desires of human beings, marked by a melancholy of fulfillment that only the full resurrection . There is an anthropology of unsatisfied call it, that fits well with the announcement of the resurrection. For her, the resurrection is a requirement. " -----
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